Post bikes you would get instead of a Harley (for similar money)

"My bird IS the word" (mybirdistheword) 10/17/2017 at 14:47 • Filed to: 2WheelsGood

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Moto Guzzi v7 iii racer (9,900$)

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Husqvarna Vitpilen 401 (TBD 2018)

Ural Gear Up (instead of a road glide) (16,500$)

Why in god’s name would I buy something called a fat bob?

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 14:54

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Ha. For 19k - Harley Softtail or a BMW R1200 or a a 1200 GS or a an S1KRR?

not for canada - australian in disguise > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 14:55

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R1200GS

Honda DN-01

Royal Enfield Classic 500

note: I don’t know anything about bikes.

Tripper > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 14:55

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Husqvarna 701 Supermoto $11,000

Ducati Hypermotard 939 $12,500

BMW S1000 R $14,000

GolfR Guy > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 14:56

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This:

http://www.proitalia.com/products/2011-ducati-diavel-black/

My bird IS the word > Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) 10/17/2017 at 14:56

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I don’t like BMW because of their cars, but the r1200 is a handsome bike. don’t much care for the fairings on the GS

benjrblant > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 14:57

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F800GS Adventure. for fun.

Africa Twin. for when the BMW is in the shop.

Grom. because why not?

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 14:57

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Triumph Rocket 3 Roadster. Starts at $15,700.

Milky > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 14:59

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My father bought a Road King years ago for $19k (barely road it and sold it). I bet with inflation its close to the $22k I paid for my Miata. So that.

Good lord they are expensive stupid bikes.

My bird IS the word > GolfR Guy 10/17/2017 at 14:59

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I really want more modern bikes like this. the big sportsbike manufacturers are kind of letting me down. Ducati is not.

CaptDale - is secretly British > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:00

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The only bike I want a 2010 Triumph Speed Triple 1050

HammerheadFistpunch > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:00

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There are a lot of different Harleys, whats my price range?

Kanaric > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:03

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I had a moto guzzi griso for about a year a few years ago, it was a much more difficult bike to ride than a Harley Davidson. Got it for about $1000 less than this but used.

I sold it for the same that I bought it for though which was nice.

GolfR Guy > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:05

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Yeah, Diavels are really cool and handle quite well for how big they are. Ducati isn’t the most reliable though sadly, my M796 has been giving me issues.

marshknute > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:06

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And if we’re allowed to include the cost of medical bills after I inevitably crash my bike:

Pickup_man > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:06

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I think I’m doing this wrong.

Oh well. Right now there is literally no other bike I’d rather have than a Street Bob, preferably the Dyna based ones, not the new Softtail based (because of the tiny gas tank). There’s plenty of other bikes I’d like to own, but right now this is at the top of the list.

MasterMario - Keeper of the V8s > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:07

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For the price of a Road Glide ($21.3k) I’d get a Kawasaki Ninja 300($5k) to just screw around with and a Moto Guzzi Norge 1200GT($16.3k) for commuting/touring.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:07

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1948 Scott Flying Squirrel , £9950 ($13,188).

My bird IS the word > HammerheadFistpunch 10/17/2017 at 15:08

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Try to match type, but I was trying to prevent people from posting fantasy bikes like confederates. Like the 6-15k range to embarass Harleys that go up to 18-20 Almost all of the bikes I want are sub 12 k because I won’t touch litre bikes.

Seriously, the more I look at bikes the more I am amazed how inexpensive the really nice ones are compared to cars.

Tekamul > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:10

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The cheapest Harley is the Street 500, at $6849.

For $6099, you can get a CB500F that looks and rides a whole lot better

Milky > CaptDale - is secretly British 10/17/2017 at 15:12

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Funny you say that. Current office art:

My bird IS the word > Pickup_man 10/17/2017 at 15:12

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There is nothing wrong with wanting a harley. It’s just not my style, and as a result none of their bikes are my style because they all are the same style.

Shift24 > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:13

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Im not a 2 wheels guy but dear lord those are all ugly. The first bike looks like they forgot about how wide the engine was and then slapped on bent tubing as an exhaust because they ran out of money. Bike two is just a slightly bigger pit bike. And the last one looks like a bike from 1960s Soviet Russia

My bird IS the word > benjrblant 10/17/2017 at 15:13

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Starred for grom. I kinda want a custom Honda ruckus myself.

fourvalleys > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:15

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I am H-D’s target market. I’m the right age, I’m the right income bracket, and I grew up on the back of all types of their bikes. And funny enough, I found myself looking for a bike this summer. A brand new bike.

I don’t have any good photos of it, but I picked up an old-stock CB1100 for a pretty solid deal. I didn’t even consider a H-D, new or used. Mine looks a good bit like this:

My bird IS the word > Shift24 10/17/2017 at 15:16

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The last bike kinda is from 1960s soviet russia. the company copied the german ww2 zundapp/bmw bikes and makes a 2wd motorcycle.

IMO motorcylces are like 20% functionality and 80% style so you are entitled to your opinion.

My bird IS the word > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/17/2017 at 15:17

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Wow, an actually cool/rare? custom bike for moderate motorcycle money.

benjrblant > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:18

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I don’t particularly understand the Ruckus aftermarket, but to each their own.

Worth noting you could purchase just about every bike on this thread PLUS a Ruckus or Grom for the price of a midrange harley.

My bird IS the word > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 10/17/2017 at 15:18

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Jesus I would die on that.

thejustache > Pickup_man 10/17/2017 at 15:19

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I’ve never owned a Harley or been a fanboy, but I don’t quite get the hate for them either. Yeah, they’re heavy, don’t turn or stop great, and expensive to boot. That said, out of almost all the other bikes here you can look like an adult riding one, rather than a squid or an overgrown kid on a dirtbike, and the torque figures are nice and juicy which is great for everyday driving. If you buy used price isn’t as much a concern, and there are always mods to address various issues. I’ve actually been considering buying a used dyna in a couple years, test drives of a few other options pending.

My bird IS the word > benjrblant 10/17/2017 at 15:19

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Neither do I, but it’s so inexpensive compared to a project car that I kinda want one.

thejustache > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:24

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Much cheaper and I already own it. Ok fine I just wanted to post a picture of my bike.... Full disclosure it actually has a Harley seat and rear fender on it right now, which are the next 2 things I plan to change.

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:25

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Harleys can get pretty expensive...

Spoon II > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:33

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I’ve always wanted a Ural!

My bird IS the word > thejustache 10/17/2017 at 15:47

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That looks amazing

Monkey B > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:52

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HD is the only brand I’d never shop. There’s simply nothing the brand offers I couldn’t get elsewhere nor is there anything about the brand that warrants consideration...especially for the price of admission.

If not for the need to fit in by certain riders HD would have died years ago. Somehow they thought that sales boom in the late 90's/ early 00's was sustainable.

Monkey B > GolfR Guy 10/17/2017 at 15:55

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friend of mine traded his Diavel because it spent too much time getting repaired.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 15:58

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Halcyon 250!

bwp240 > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:00

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When the time comes to get a motorbike I am seriously considering

This:

or

Both these bikes can be had for ~$7500 each on the used market. Harley can’t even come close to pricing vs practicality

My bird IS the word > Monkey B 10/17/2017 at 16:01

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I think complacency and strict adherence to tradition has both saved HD, and doomed them. Nothing about the brand is exciting to me as a consumer, considering alternatives. Considering motorcycles are rarely purchases of need, want and desire are the whole brand. It is a difficult line to walk.

I don’t think HD is going out of business, but they will probably need to dramatically scale back operations.

My bird IS the word > bwp240 10/17/2017 at 16:03

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That one up top is.... interesting.

My bird IS the word > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 10/17/2017 at 16:05

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That thing is rad. Way too expensive for a 250 though.

valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:08

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CaptDale - is secretly British > Milky 10/17/2017 at 16:09

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Wrong color, but I want it!

bwp240 > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:11

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It is a Honda NM4 . It is basically the NC700 DCT (bottom) with different body cladding.

My bird IS the word > valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option 10/17/2017 at 16:11

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I hope you aren’t paying 10 grand for something you have to pedal yourself.

themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:14

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Agreed. But at the same time, it is hand assembled and customized and you get “fitted” to it like a fine suit. It might only be a 250, but I can think of no other motorcycle that makes you look more distinguished and unique. It’s also super easy and really comfy to ride at 40-45mph. It’s a bit of a bargain at 8k or so. I’m sure for an extra grand or so they can find a bigger motor.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:17

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That ones’ a post-war bike, but aside from the tank design essentially unchanged from the earliest ones in the twenties. They’re fast, smooth, light, well-balanced, simply made, and historically significant. They used to compete in the Isle of Man.

They’re passive water-cooled (thermosiphon) two-stroke with an oil pump, and people still make the parts for them, even.

Nisman > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:25

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But those bikes are ugly, except the Guzzi

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:28

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2.3 liters, 150hp, 163 ft-lbs.

valsidalv, reminding you that infiniti is an option > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:28

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I love motorcycles, but I love bicycles even more.

Pickup_man > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:30

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Funny thing is I was never a Harley guy until my old Yamaha started breaking down a lot and somehow my Dad (who owns a CB900) convinced me to buy a Sportster. I’ve always been more into sportier bikes, and cafe racers, (then there was the whole American Chopper phase before I could actually ride). Buying and riding that Sporster changed how I viewed motorcycles completely. It wasn’t fast, it didn’t handle great (although it was still better than my XJ), and it was heavy, under powered, etc. etc. etc. but I had more fun with that bike than any I’ve had before or since. Living in eastern South Dakota all there is to do around here is cruise, and a Harley is amazing at that so I started to see the appeal. Also as you grow older your tastes change and evolve and I started really getting into the older style bobbers because IMO they look awesome, and are great at cruising, which is the vast majority of the riding I do. I still hate the image that most Harley riders are associated with, but I’ve learned to ignore it and do my own thing, and I’ve met a few Harley riders who defy the stereotype which helps.

I still wouldn’t consider myself a Harley guy. Apart from the Lowrider S, and a couple of special model Sporsters the Street Bob is really the only Harley that I like, the rest of their lineup does nothing for me. I’m still a lover of all things two wheeled, and there’s a lot of non Harley’s that I’d love to have. I’m currently on a Yamaha Warrior 1700, which I love and plan to ride for a long time, but (prepare yourself for a crappy cliche) it doesn’t really speak to my soul.

My bird IS the word > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 10/17/2017 at 16:31

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I approve. Not my cup of tea (lol) but definitely a good choice.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:36

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The way I look at it is, I would never need anything faster, more agile, more fuel efficient, more comfortable, or probably even more reliable for anything other than a cross-country tour - and as I’m not a Bike Guy, if I had to pick one bike to own, it might as well be one with a stupid amount of character.

Pickup_man > thejustache 10/17/2017 at 16:42

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I’ve never been much of a fanboy either, but I had a Sporster for a while and that changed a lot of my opinions on Harley. They’re exactly what people say they are, slow-ish, heavy, don’t handle well (though they aren’t nearly as bad as people make them out to be), but they’re amazing on long back roads and gentle curves. If you can get past the mindset of needing the fastest, lightest, nimblest bike possible and want to sit back, relax, and enjoy the ride, a Harley is a great choice (there’s plenty of other bikes that are as well). Give the Dyna a shot, I’ve ridden a few a liked them a lot, but due to wanting to save a little money I ended up on a Yamaha Warrior once I outgrew the Sportster.

Harley’s are very polarizing bikes, you either love them, or hate them. I ended up on one and discovered that I actually loved them, after having disliked them for a very long time. It seems that most people who spend some real time on a Harley riding them they way they were intended end up feeling the same way.

What other bikes are you looking at?

Nothing > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 16:51

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All of them. I’d literally buy anything before a Harley.

My bird IS the word > Nothing 10/17/2017 at 17:02

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That’s a little harsh. They aren’t made poorly. I just hate the “biker” aesthetic, and community to a lesser degree.

cmill189 - sans Volvo > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 17:09

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Even a halfway decent bicycle will cost $1,500. 10K bikes are not unheard of.

Biggus Dickus (RevsBro) > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 17:09

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I wasn’t a huge believer in BMW motorcycles until a friend gave me the opportunity to rip an S1000RR on race rubber around High Plains. Good god that completely changed my mind.

(Disclaimer: I own an E92 M3 - so there may be some bias)

Nothing > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 17:12

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That’s basically what I’m getting at. It’s not the bikes, so much, it’s the crowd. That said, I don’t love the bikes, either.

bhtooefr > My bird IS the word 10/17/2017 at 17:22

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Here’s a 1913 Zenith-JAP Gradua that sold for $26,545 in 2010, less than the top of the Harley line. Only 6 horsepower, and it has a CVT, but it’s a manual CVT, and the bike has variable wheelbase (to maintain belt tension).

This is closer to the bottom end of Harley’s price range, and is completely different in role, but fuck it, have a 1948 Salsbury Imperial Rocket for $9850, because it’s a design that I’m in love with.:

Can almost certainly get a 1963 Honda Juno M85 well-within the price range, with an estimated sale price of $9200-13,000, so let’s go for one of those (and, hey, we’ve got another manual CVT, this one being a power split hydrostatic unit):

OK, let’s stop screwing around with scooters, and get something faster and more modern. A 2018 Zero SR ZF14.4, $16,495.

Cabrio'sNStrat's > themanwithsauce - has as many vehicles as job titles 10/17/2017 at 18:10

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These are made in my town and I can say your supporting some good people there. I’m not into motorcycles but it is a joy seeing theirs around town often.

pip bip - choose Corrour > My bird IS the word 10/18/2017 at 06:51

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Australia’s best selling bike, Honda NBC110 Supercub aka postie bike